Saturday, October 25, 2008

This didn't pass the moderation filter! Astounding

What I find the most reassuring isn't that Obama is presenting himeself as serious and sober in contrast to the mouth-foaming that McCain's abetting and encouraging, it's that it appears to be working.
Ever since Karl Rove spewed his "therapy and understanding" line, I've been waiting patiently for the American people to realize that the Republican playbook is utterly devoid of anything constructive to contribute to the Country.

It appears that they're finally catching on.


Anonymous said...

Hello? Is anyone here?

Rose said...

That is amazing. I think of myself as someone who uses very demure/PC language, and I could have used every word in that comment. The substance of your comment was controversial - which is kind of appropriate for a political blog - but the style was not.

And yes, I'm here!

karen tumulty said...

i'm here, too. for a few minutes, at least. soon to take off for delaware.

jaraish said...

Strange. The moderation filter has not caught me. Yet.

wvng said...

Hi jay, now I have a Blogger account.

The following post went into moderation at 10:01 this morning.

October 26th, 2008 at 10:01 am

Jay said: "This says, succinctly, what is never said explicitly. Every single barrier to people exercising their franchise can be laid at the door of the Republicans trying to limit ballot access. This is a key part of Republican electoral strategy, is being played out more brazenly than ever before in this cycle, and the result is....."

MS, you might consider that a challenge. It would be bracing to have a msm article with chattering class followup that laid out, specifically and quantitatively, how the approaches of Dems and Repugs impact the opportunity of American citizens to vote and have their votes counted. This is a particularly useful time to do this, as the Bush DOJ spent years trying to prove that actual voter fraud occurs and came up empty:

-- David Becker was a lawyer in the Bush Justice Department's voting rights section, which was part of the administration's aggressive anti-vote-fraud effort. "The Justice Department really made prosecution of voter fraud of this sort a big priority in the first half of this decade, and they really didn't come up with anything. There's no evidence that any of these invalid registrations lead to any invalid votes."

-- Republican National Committee General Counsel Sean Cairncross has said he is unaware of a single improper vote cast because of bad cards submitted in the course of a voter-registration effort.

-- Republican campaign consultant Royal Masset says, "[I]n-person voter fraud is nonexistent. It doesn't happen, and ... makes no sense because who's going to take the risk of going to jail on something so blatant that maybe changes one vote?"

So, MS, what say you?

Cliff said...

Hey everyone, I followed the link over from Scherer's latest post.

Yeah, I have no real idea what causes moderation and what doesn't. But it's getting me down. I didn't start posting on Swampland so that I could sit quietly and not yell about politics.

Jay Ackroyd said...

Hey folks. Thanks for posting Paul. Hey KT.

I will put up a post or two a day, starting late tonight or early tomorrow.

If i get ambitious, I'll do what I do in the atrios and Swamper comment threads, put up off topic links (well, the entire nature of the atrios comment thread is in just what interesting way will it go off topic. I proudly set off two thread worth of fish puns last week.)

This will only work as a backup if it gets some critical mass when Swampland is back up and running.

I am sure the tech folks realize that it looks like shit, that the moderation stuff is deeply broken, and they may be reconsidering the adoption of wordpress. So while I am sure it will get better (as it already has in some ways) it may be good to keep some message flow here.

At least on Dirks' posts.

Jay Ackroyd said...


i've been waiting patiently for the American people to realize that the Republican playbook is utterly devoid of anything constructive to contribute to the Country.

It appears that they're finally catching on.

And the way in which the wingnut "intellectuals" are losing their shit in response, ramping up the "Commie Commie" volume to 11, and getting really ticked off that it's not working, and then seeing Chris Buckley walk, and Ken Adelman walk, and Charles Fried walk, and then they look around, and see that all that's left is the Doughy Pantload, and his intellectual equivalents.

HEY!! LA Times. Fire Goldberg. Give Mr KT a column instead.

wvng said...

I think the core problem at the Swamp is that moderation requires, you know, a moderator.

A real live person.

Jay Ackroyd said...

Yes, I think the WordPress system design assumes that. But that also implies it assumes low volume, not terribly interactive comment threads.

You can't moderate 24 7 without a lot of money, or a lot of dedicated volunteers (see FDL).

Jay Ackroyd said...

That last sentence may be read as negative. It's not FDL does an amazing job of moderating its content.

wvng said...

Hi jay, I have two wonderfully innocuous posts in moderation this morning. One references your Financial Times catch.


In response to your comment last night "You can't moderate 24 7 without a lot of money, or a lot of dedicated volunteers (see FDL)."
And if you don't have those assets, you should avoid a starting moderated blog. I would have expected them to understand the consequences of their choice.

Jay Ackroyd said...


The Sheriffs' response was obviously not done with foresight or planning. My guess is they were in the process of evaluation and testing with wordpress, and so it was the closest thing they had to an operational substitute for the system that apparently completely crashed.

This is certainly not what they intend to be a TIME product. And I am sure they are hearing about it from their bosses, and the contributors.

Please do note that failures like this are management and resourcing failures, almost every time, not technical failures. It's quite possible that someone representing the dev team has been noting the instability (the frequent posting errors) and trying to move forward on a new system.

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